Social care - Practitioner and Stakeholder Panel minutes: November 2022

Attendees and apologies

Chair of the meeting

• Stuart Currie (Vice Chair, Independent Review of Inspection, Scrutiny and Regulation IRISR) 

Practitioner and Stakeholder panel members (the panel)

• Adoption UK
• Care Home Relatives Group
• Carer Centres Managers Network
• CELCIS
• Coalition of Care and Support Providers (CCPS)
• Coalition of Carers in Scotland
• Community Justice Scotland
• People Led Policy Panel – 2 representatives present
• Queen's Nursing Institute Scotland
• Shelter Scotland
• SIAA
• STUC
• The Promise Scotland
• The Scottish Young Carers Services Alliance Network 

Scottish Government personnel and secretariat

• Kerry Brooks
• Arlene Crockett
• Laura Ferguson
• Daniel Nagy

Apologies

• COSLA
• Early Years Scotland (EYS)
• National Day Nurseries Association (NDNA) Scotland 
• SACRO
• Scottish Association of Social Work
• Scottish Care
• Scottish Childminding Association
• Social Work Scotland
• The Royal College of Nursing Scotland (RCN)

Items and actions

Discuss actions from last meeting

• presentation to be shared with panel members – actioned
• terms of reference to be updated – actioned 
• invite representative from the Commissioner of Children and Young People – actioned 
• meeting of the two panels – the Chair advised this will take place when the agency that analyse the results from the stakeholder engagement phase present their initial findings
• legal advice – in progress
• expenses – in progress

Action: on items currently in progress an update will be given in due course. 

Question: a panel member asked about the EQIA and how the digital aspect is captured. An example given was regards digital infrastructure and how this has changed in councils, GP practices and care homes. Transitions in Care was also raised.

Action: the secretariat to make contact with the panel member to discuss the EQIA and amendments to reflect digital matters. 

Update on Stakeholder Engagement Programme

• the Chair provided a brief update of the events that have taken place so far
• the Chair encouraged members to circulate the link for the Call for Evidence which also provides details of the virtual events that are still to take place and how to register
• a member of the secretariat updated the panel on what additional groups have been contacted, and what bespoke events are planned

Question: several panel members raised the issue of timescales and asked if the stakeholder engagement phase could be extended.

Action: the Chair advised that timescales relating specifically to the Review and its recommendations could not be altered but reinforced the secretariat will explore ways to be flexible and supportive to colleagues.

Question: a panel member asked if the deadline for the call for evidence can be extended until 13 January 2023.

Action: the secretariat will discuss this with the Chair and Vice Chair of the Review and advise the panel of the outcome.

Proposal for each panel meeting to have a focus on one of the ‘call for evidence’ themes – starting with A Person Centred Approach.

The Chair suggested that going forward the panel will focus on the 5 themes from the Call for Evidence meeting by meeting. The Independent Review Panel is also taking this approach.

Panel members agreed to this. 

Call for evidence themes

A discussion then took place about A Person Centred Approach.

The Chair emphasised the importance of evidence and that the panel would be key to drawing evidence together under the five key themes.

The panel also discussed self-evaluation and the importance of feedback, especially from people with lived experience. 

The panel discussed the importance of qualitative feedback as well as quantitative feedback.

The panel also discussed the importance of addressing the need to look at culture in the Review and a stronger emphasis on partnership working.

Action: The secretariat to ensure future meetings will reflect the five themes.

Any other business

Minutes from the last meeting were approved by panel members. 

Questions left in MST chat

A panel member asked for more information about a section from the draft EQIA regards legislation.

Action: the secretariat will look into this and provide an update at the next panel meeting.

Next meeting 

The next panel meeting will take place on: Tuesday 13th December (14:00 - 16:00) via MS Teams